4.1 Final doesn't like old OctaMED SoundStudio V1.0.3c

[HKvalhe]

A longer term solution but apparently A-Eon are looking to take OctaMED over and upgrade it.

I'm hoping this come to pass as the lack of MIDI when using the 68k version on OS4 rendered it mostly useless for me anyway.

I'm eager for the new version as well, so

[MickJT]

Just wanted to confirm that OctaMED SS 1.03c freezes the system for me also, when quitting on OS4.1 Final Edition. Running MemGuard also freezes the system after a few seconds.

[HKvalhe]

Just wanted to confirm that OctaMED SS 1.03c freezes the system for me also, when quitting on OS4.1 Final Edition. Running MemGuard also freezes the system after a few seconds.

Then it's confirmed. It's not the programs that are the problem, but the new features of AmigaOS 4.1 Final are causing some issues in term of "incompatibility". This can be slowdown, freezes and some small, pointless messages that don't mean anything at all. In another topic it was mentioned that the unified RTG graphic library you see in Kickstart layer is the one causing a conflict with older software and tools. While the new graphic system is brilliant, it is not so friendly with older stuffs.

I hope something can be fixed so that these old programs and tools still can be used. There shouldn't be much difference in the way they work. Where they worked marvellously in AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6, they should still do in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition. At least until AmigaOS 4.2 is out, then of course programs and tools have to be updated to use new features, understandable enough.

[Raziel]

Dear AmigaOS4 devs,

Please DO NOT "fix" any of the new features so that "these old programs and tools still can be used".

Sincerely,

a "moved on" AmigaOS user

[HKvalhe]

Dear AmigaOS4 devs,

Please DO NOT "fix" any of the new features so that "these old programs and tools still can be used".

Sincerely,

a "moved on" AmigaOS user

That's simply NOT your decision to make, Raziel! And besides, there are certain minor bugs that cause the AmigaOS 4.1 Final to freeze, as several have reported.

You seem to forget the fact that most softwares for Amiga that are native, are usually older programs and tools that are yet to be updated. And it was these older programs and tools that helped brought the Amiga where it is now.

If we are not to be able to use these programs and tools while waiting for these to be updated, then we got nothing worth using, in fact. Ever thought of that? No, I don't think you have thought on this carefully enough.

You try so hard to sound convincing and so clever with your comments, but looking closely, your answers are not in the best interest for all of us, but for you ONLY. Meaning that your comments are too selfish.

You Raziel has grown to become a miserable pain to many users with your selfish comments, including myself. I do not wish to see such insults again, do you understand? Good!

Now, take a hike...Raziel.

[Raziel]

That's simply NOT your decision to make

Neither it's yours

You try so hard to sound convincing and so clever with your comments, but looking closely, your answers are not in the best interest for all of us, but for you ONLY. Meaning that your comments are too selfish.

Finally you have learned to reflect yourself, i couldn't have given a better description of you. Bravo!

You Raziel has grown to become a miserable pain to many users with your selfish comments, including myself. I do not wish to see such insults again, do you understand? Good!

Ditto!

[zzd10h]

@HKvalhe
I agree with you.

Where can I find Octamed ? i would like to try under FE.
Thx

[HKvalhe]

@HKvalhe
I agree with you.

Where can I find Octamed ? i would like to try under FE.
Thx

You're welcome You can google OctaMED SoundStudio V1.0.3c or even download the Amiga version directly from either http://www.medsoundstudio.com or Aminet.

However, because of certain changes in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition, the old version doesn't work well in FE. It did however in AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6. Also, seek out TheMaestrix AHI tool at Aminet also, which fools your sound system to think it's using a ProMaestrix 16 bit audio card. This is a commodity, and you place it to run under WBStartup.

OMSS (shortcut of OctaMED SoundStudio V1.0.3c) will most likely cause AmigaOS 4.1 Final to freeze after some few minutes. That's because of the new features of AmigaOS 4.1 Final. While we do appreciate the new features a great welcome, they cause issues when running older programs and tools, which youself have experienced.

The problem with older programs and tools are that many of these are yet to be updated and we have to use what we can get here and now while waiting. While they worked nicely under AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6, they should manage to work nicely as well under AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition. I'm sure most agree on that. Many of these old programs and tools brought the Amiga where it is today. It wouldn't make any worthful sense not to be able to run these programs. Backward compatibility has always been one of Amiga's strongest sides. It should continue to be so. It wouldn't be much of an Amiga otherwise...

Interesting enough and it really proves the problem lies in AmigaOS 4.1 Final: I tested OctaMED SoundStudio V1.0.3c again, running the program directly. It opens in own screen, using the same WB screenmode and it all runs fine when you stay in that program, for more than 5 minutes if you are lucky. It is when you quit the program to go back to WB under AmigaOS 4.1 Final the problem occour. When trying to click any icon in WB to run a task or program, it doesn't react and then the OS freezes. Very odd, but the new unified graphic system can explain being the issue, as another user pointed out in another threat about AmigaOS 4.1 Final Bugs. OctaMED SoundStudio V1.0.3c was never a problem under AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6. In AmigaOS 4.1 Final, it appears to be. The problem is therefore not related to the music tracker, but the OS itself.

@Raziel

Never said it was my decision. I made an important point to make you realize where your own place is. This conversation is pointless and insulting. It's not all about you. You will read that there are several having different issues with AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition. There is nothing more to say about that. This is NOT a war zone. It's a forum where support is given. It's pretty simple as that. Besides, the reflection was of YOU, not me. Nobody else than yourself is laughing. You are the only one whom seem to agree with your own statement. Nobody else. This conversation ends here. This is a support forum and nothing else.

I will suggest you to see many different threats about different bugs and problems in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition, to give you a clear picture of the situation. Then you will realize what i have said, wasn't as stupid and pointless as you think it is...

[zzd10h]

Do you have a link please ?

[Raziel]

This post was reported and didn't offer any technical info so I removed it.

No need for making anything personal on a simple support site guys.