What USB devices are available.

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What USB devices are available.

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Hi All,
Another X1000 user here,
I have some questions that someone might be able to answer. I have been testing USB devices with AOS 4.1.5 and have found that there are quite a few I can't get going,.
So far my 1 & 2GB thumb drives work, and of course my keyboard and mouse, the things that are identified but do not just pop up and work are:
MUP 150MBps 802.11n Wireless USB - identified by the USB system as a realtek chip.
Generic Blutooth adapter reported again as a network device.
Toshiba USB floppy drive recognised as having a Teac mechanisim.
803.11b only network adapter Zydex chipset.
I presume that we are still awaiting drivers for a lot of this stuff.

Also can anyone tell me regarding the CF connector on the X1000 I know it can take a CF card but would it handle a compound devices with 64MB ram and an 80211b/g wireless network card?
Also can Runiniuae be made to run in native 68000 mode or is it 68020 and thats your lot.

Thanks in advance.
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Like most computer accessories, USB devices require drivers to make them work.
Some devices are "class compliant", meaning that they follow a defined standard
for compatibility reasons. Those that are not "class compliant" have to have drivers
written specifically for them.

Some of the classes included with OS4 include:
The HID class (Human Interface Device), which includes most mice and keyboards.
The Mass Storage Class. which includes most "Thumb" drives, and a lot of other stuff
that might include storage too.
The HUB class, which manages USB hubs.
The ptp class, which many digital cameras use for picture storage.

In addition to these there are also OS4 class drivers available for some tablets (touchpads)
and most MIDI gear.

Of course, all of these will only work if the specific device you are using is class compliant.

There are a few places that have gasthered compatibility information for USB devices
in OS4. I'm sure a search of your favorite Amiga support websites will turn up more information.
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Falloutboy wrote:Runiniuae be made to run in native 68000 mode or is it 68020 and thats your lot.
Why do you think you need a 68000?

Anyway, RunInUAE emulates an A1200 (68020) for HD-installed software, and for ADF games that are marked as needing AGA. But for other ADF games it emulates an A500 (68000). If you are having problems with HD-installed A500 software, then you may need to try using a system degrader like real A1200 users had to use! e.g. KillAGA, Run500, etc. (Such programs need to be installed on the emulated Amiga NOT on AmigaOS4!)

Alternatively, advanced users can have a special E-UAE config file (on a per-game basis). I would not advise disabling AGA, but switching to a 68000 running at A500 speeds would probably work (although slowly!).
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Falloutboy wrote:Hi All,
Another X1000 user here,
Welcome! and Enjoy!!
Also can anyone tell me regarding the CF connector on the X1000 I know it can take a CF card but would it handle a compound devices with 64MB ram and an 80211b/g wireless network card?

Thanks in advance.
There is no driver for the CF slot under AmigaOS yet. The port does run in Compact Flash mode and not True IDE so the card you mentioned has a chance of working, the problem will be the lack of drivers. There are no 802.11G drivers for OS4 yet so it is unlikely you'll get the WiFi any time soon. I have seen Prism 2(11b) cards as CF so those could probably be persuaded to work with some modifications to the prism2 driver. (Don't look at me I've other things to do!)

Most people use the CF to hold Linux kernels if they are using Linux as that works well.

Perhaps you could post a link to the compound card you are looking at?

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If you want to have wireless on your X1000, then you will need the following card:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/cat ... cts_id=158

Caveats:
1. I haven't personally tested this in my X1000 yet (even though I have one), due to the reason below, but it *should* work.
2. As OS4 currently lacks drivers for built-in sound & ethernet, both PCI slots are taken-up by sound & ethernet cards, meaning you can't add wireless without loosing sound or ethernet. OTOH, I believe some people (e.g. Trevor) have reported success using a PCI-to-PCI-Express adaptor, thus freeing-up a PCI slot.

It would probably be simpler to get a 'reverse Wireless Access Point' box (I dunno what they are really called) which takes a wireless signal & makes it accessible via an ethernet port (which the X1000 has of course). You can surely configure a WAP box to act like that, but maybe there are cheaper/simpler devices which only do that job?
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Check here on amigans for a list on working stuff. You are welcome to fill in if theres any other usb stuff that isnt on the list.

http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/v ... mpost71752
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Thank you all for the information, I have been doing much reading, part of which was how the USB layer worked under OS 4.1, It was incomplete but does have the foundation work done.

I have also found the very obscure manufacturer website for my EDUP EN8508 USB2 150Mb adapter which is no bigger than your thumb nail and asked very nicely if I might possibly have the source code for the driver so that It can be converted for the Amigaone X500/X1000.

They may so no but they might also say yes, hey they may not even bother responding - so I took the attitude that it doesn't hurt to ask.
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