Modern HP scanner and printer support, NTFS r/w

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Rigo wrote:Well, as much as I hate to disappoint, I think you'll be waiting a lot longer than that.

Printing is something that would take a dedicated team a year to get releasable, and that's having access to all the relevant specs for these modern printers (many of which are "Windows" printers).
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OK, can existing DOT4 and PCL3 printer be improved anyhow? Do we know which exact models it fully supports?
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/arti ... oryid=6783
http://os4depot.net/index.php?function= ... sbdot4.lha
http://os4depot.net/index.php?function= ... osmart.lha

Is there a list which models these two drivers fully support? Priniting is somewhat more essential then scanning :-)

Can at least driver for one model of HP printer (e.g. cheap 1010 or similar) be done?

It seems I will have to steal my old HP6P from my old father to be able to print :-)
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz ... =33&t=1218

Is there anything we can do in terms of setting a bounty or assigning some external development?

Workaround solutions like net printing is nice, but that is just not it and might come expensive to set up.
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Raziel wrote:
chris wrote:@Raziel

The main problem with HP printers is that our usbprinter.device doesn't have Dot4 support.
Most HP printers support PCL5 or PostScript, both of which are supported by our existing drivers.
There is a dot4 usb printer driver on the depot, iirc, couldn't that be incorporated into the available usb printer driver.
That Dot4 driver was never completed and I've had very limited success with it.
And actually i don't have the (USB) problem rigtht now as i'm using my printer through the net, like nbache, using lpr or rather netprinter.device.
So am I, using ipp.device and the PostScript driver. This mostly stems from the fact I could never get the printer to work over USB due to the Dot4 issue, but as it is set up now, I'm liable to leave it like that as it's on a dedicated print server.
I don't quite understand when it comes to PS/PCL printer drivers...if PS is supported then "thats it"? There is nothing more a PS driver could be teached to do, like duplex print (on/off)
I would have thought so, otherwise there wouldn't be printer-specific PS drivers on other platforms.
, maybe even copy/scan from a MuFu?
That's not a job for the printer driver - that would be a scanner driver.
OK, can existing DOT4 and PCL3 printer be improved anyhow? Do we know which exact models it fully supports?
Is there a list which models these two drivers fully support? Priniting is somewhat more essential then scanning :-)
Can at least driver for one model of HP printer (e.g. cheap 1010 or similar) be done?
The Dot4 driver supports all printers that use the Dot4 protocol - well, in theory it does, but I've never got it to work. Most USB HP printers only support Dot4, I'm not sure about other makes.

The HP Photosmart driver is a PCL3GUI driver. Any printer supporting that language should work with it.

The HP LaserJet 1010 (I'm assuming you mean the old one, it confuses me as HP sometimes recycle their model numbers and I have a feeling there's a "new" 1010 too) is a PCL5 printer. Well, actually, it's not. The LJ1015 is a PCL5 printer. The LJ1010 (and LJ1012) only support a subset of the PCL5 language. The old LJ4 driver (the LJ4 is a PCL5 printer) in WB works perfectly with the LJ1015 (I was using it over the parallel interface for a number of years), although I couldn't say for sure whether it would be suitable for the 1010 or 1012.

The actual printer drivers aren't much of an issue (and a port of Gutenprint is coming along nicely which should help there anyway). The main problem is the lack of Dot4 support, which renders a printer completely unuseable as OS4 cannot communicate with it. (sure, you can say "avoid Dot4 printers", but there's no way of knowing if you have a Dot4 printer until you plug it in, and then it's too late)
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Raziel wrote:
nbache wrote:What features are you missing?
e.g. higher resolution, color, duplex etc
I have simply set my printer to use duplex through the printer's own settings panel. As for color, it does print in color; this can be selected/deselected in Prefs/PrinterPS, I believe. I'm not sure about the resolution, but the things I've printed so far look okay. PrinterPS seems to be set to 300×300 DPI, I guess that could probably be increased. I'll have to try playing with that.

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kas1e wrote: Yep, why not. For example, there even some success (with sources) of NTFS support already done for mos: http://blubbedev.net/filesysbox/
It have some limitations for now (small ones), but in end it works, and can be ported to os4 by someone who know the stuff. It still will be "3d party", but whatever it called, if it will works, then its enough.
Is the source code of filesysbox.library available somewhere or does it need to be reimplemented entirely from scratch?
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Is the source code of filesysbox.library available somewhere or does it need to be reimplemented entirely from scratch?
Yes and yes.

The source code is available in a partially-implemented form. However, it is written for the obsolete packet interface and would have to be re-written for the VP interface.
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@salas00
that one which used on mos i assume closed-source (as it now part of os), as for another implementations dunno, can't find in google anything useful.

@tonyw
But packet interface still supported, so no big differences to how write it now from users pov. Even will be cool to have packet based now, which will already works, and then, after few years if there will be real needs it can be redone for vp.
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tonyw wrote: The source code is available in a partially-implemented form. However, it is written for the obsolete packet interface and would have to be re-written for the VP interface.
Probably, but it would still be useful to see how it's done there and what stuff from fuse needs to be implemented. Anyway I just typed "filesysbox.library" into google and found it.
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@salas00
Anyway I just typed "filesysbox.library" into google and found it.
Right, sources included in mos version as well
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tonyw wrote:You give us a specification for NTFS and we'll write a filesystem to handle it.
I am very glad NTFS will be supported. Printer and scanner support to go to satisfy this wish list :-)
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