Two problems introduced by Update 5

[saimo]

Hello,

first of all, thank you for Update 5.
I have installed it on this A1-XE without problems. My first impression was that the system is smoother, especially with regard to file access and OWB (I guess the former is thanks to the updated dos.library and the latter thanks to the updated MUI libraries). Then I made some tests and noticed that memory performance is a little worse, but that's not what I'd like to bring to your attention here.

What I'd like to present here is these two problems:
1. ConClip doesn't work anymore (nothing gets selected/copied; tested both with the native handler and KingCON);
2. make (the version included in the latest public SDK) is affected by a delay of 1-2 seconds every time it recurses into a subdirectory.

Regarding the second problem, f.ex., if a makefile has:

$(MAKE) -C directory0
$(MAKE) -C directory1

the execution is halted for 1-2 seconds between the return from directory0 and the entering of directory1. Sometimes the pause happens right after make prints the "leaving directory..." message; sometimes just before printing it.

Good luck with the hunt...

[javierdlr]

1)Where does Conclip fail? in Shell/CLI, everywhere? Please an example, some steps to try to reproduce such problem.
2)Sorry there can't help just know to type 'make' and let my A1-XE to do the "hardwork" compiling and such.

[tonyw]

Saimo, ConClip works fine here. I use it frequently, on all console versions, but I don't use KingCon.

[saimo]

1)Where does Conclip fail? in Shell/CLI, everywhere? Please an example, some steps to try to reproduce such problem.

I was referring to the shell only (excuse my ignorance, but I know of no other use for ConClip ). Unfortunately, I can only repeat what I wrote: nothing gets selected - i.e. trying to highlight the text in a shell produces no result (and it's not a visual problem only, as [amiga]+[C] doesn't copy anything.

[saimo]

Saimo, ConClip works fine here. I use it frequently, on all console versions, but I don't use KingCon.

Thanks for letting me know, but, just for clarity, let me say again that the problem affects also the defaul console here.

[javierdlr]

I don't use KingCON looong time ago. Are you replacing CON: with KCON: or alike (dismounting CON: and remounting KCON: as CON: or such)

My Shell icon tooltypes:
WINDOW=CON:50/50/600/350/AmigaShell/CLOSE
STACK=32768
FROM=S:Shell-Startup

OR just try from Shell/CLI: newshell CON:50/50/600/350/AmigaShell/CLOSE

Try with this settings, please and post results.

Can you mark text using mouse in the Shell?

If you mark&copy text from other place (notepad,..) Can you paste it in the Shell?
Maybe if you're using KingCON is some kind of incompatibility ¿:-/
The Shell in update5 has namecompletion (AFAIK) just a bit basic, pressing TAB

[tonyw]

@Saimo:

When you click and drag over console text, do the letters become highlighted (reverse image) ? That is a pretty basic console action, nothing to do with the con-handler or KingCon. It should happen with any handler.

Are you using unusual text colours? Maybe the "highlighted" text is being displayed in the same colour?

You said that RAmiga/C does nothing. Is the highlight cleared or is there none?

What if you do a RAmiga/C in Multiview or Notepad, Paste it in Notepad to test, then try highlighting text and RAmiga/C in the console. Is the old paste data erased?

[saimo]

I don't use KingCON looong time ago. Are you replacing CON: with KCON: or alike (dismounting CON: and remounting KCON: as CON: or such)

I have already said twice that using the default console makes no difference - in other words, the problem is not KingCON (which, by the way, has always used to work perfectly).

My Shell icon tooltypes:
WINDOW=CON:50/50/600/350/AmigaShell/CLOSE
STACK=32768
FROM=S:Shell-Startup

OR just try from Shell/CLI: newshell CON:50/50/600/350/AmigaShell/CLOSE

Try with this settings, please and post results.

These settings aren't relevant (unless you have something special in shell-startup).
Anyway, again: I've tried the default shell prior to creating this thread and the result is mentioned in the first post.

Can you mark text using mouse in the Shell?

No, as already said twice.

If you mark&copy text from other place (notepad,..) Can you paste it in the Shell?

Yes: the clipboard works fine. And this can be done also without ConClip running.

The Shell in update5 has namecompletion (AFAIK) just a bit basic, pressing TAB

I believe that this has been available for a long while (maybe since the initial developer pre-release).

[saimo]

@Saimo:

When you click and drag over console text, do the letters become highlighted (reverse image) ? That is a pretty basic console action, nothing to do with the con-handler or KingCon. It should happen with any handler.

No, it doesn't happen. That's exactly what I'm reporting.

Are you using unusual text colours? Maybe the "highlighted" text is being displayed in the same colour?

I'm using the same colour scheme I've been using for years. But, as said, it's not a visual effect because, otherwise, copying would have worked.

You said that RAmiga/C does nothing. Is the highlight cleared or is there none?

Nothing highlighted and nothing copied.

What if you do a RAmiga/C in Multiview or Notepad, Paste it in Notepad to test, then try highlighting text and RAmiga/C in the console. Is the old paste data erased?

The test fails because, as said, nothing gets selected in the shell. However, I can report that:
* I can copy&paste to/from NotePad / OWB / FrexxEd / string gadgets of applications / you name it without problems (and without ConClip running).
* MultiView has the same problem of the shell: nothing gets marked/copied.
* I can paste to shell.

[tonyw]

You can't mark and copy from Multiview, yet you can from Notepad ???

If that's so, then you must have an unusual system configuration. I can assure you that it works properly in a clean Update N environment (0 <= N <= 5). Somehow you have stopped it from working by removing or installing something.

I suggest that you re-install the system to a clean partition, bring up a clean Update 5 installation and check that it works as it should. Then start making your customising changes until you discover what has killed it.