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Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:44 pm
by zerohero
Hello!

I've very surprised to see that this update does not include an updated con-handler and console.device? Is this just an error or has something happened to decide it is not to be included?

Regards,
Joachim Birging

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:48 pm
by Hypex
I did notice too after running CLI that the standard shell still hasn't got a scroll bar. Back to 68K for me! :-)

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:11 pm
by javierdlr
patience. will come when it's done, well betatested :-)

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:15 pm
by zerohero
javierdlr wrote:patience. will come when it's done, well betatested :-)
AFAIK it's been tested and used for quite some time. I can quote a core developer on that...

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:01 pm
by zerohero
I've learnt it been held but no other reason than "sorry, boss said nope" was given. To say the least I am very disappointed.

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:42 pm
by ssolie
zerohero wrote:I've very surprised to see that this update does not include an updated con-handler and console.device? Is this just an error or has something happened to decide it is not to be included?
The update was focused on bug fixes. The new console is a brand new feature and will be included in the next major release.

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:08 pm
by zerohero
ssolie wrote:The update was focused on bug fixes. The new console is a brand new feature and will be included in the next major release.
Yes. charge another €100 (would make it €400 for me, if I decide to buy it) for an updated shell. Sorry about the cynical view, but this was a big let down to me.

EDIT:
And how can USB v2 be a bug fix while console.device and con-handler is not? That just doesn't make sense...

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:49 pm
by chris
zerohero wrote:And how can USB v2 be a bug fix while console.device and con-handler is not? That just doesn't make sense...
Not sure, because both have been in development for years and I think were originally planned for 4.0.

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:38 pm
by davebraco
It was not planned to release the new con-handler with update 3. Maybe the new con-handler is not fully finished and need to be deeply tested...

More over USB2 seems to be more urgent than a new con-handler to basic end user.

Zero Hero, I don't think the next major update will only contain an updated con-handler.

Re: Update 3 - No new con-handler?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:45 pm
by zerohero
davebraco wrote:It was not planned to release the new con-handler with update 3. Maybe the new con-handler is not fully finished and need to be deeply tested...

More over USB2 seems to be more urgent than a new con-handler to basic end user.

Zero Hero, I don't think the next major update will only contain an updated con-handler.
Not finished or tested yet? I don't believe that.

Sure, the next major update will contain a lot more than an updated shell, but how many times must I buy the same OS before I get a usable shell? It's been 3 times already and don't tell me the shell is usable. Try compiling anything that throws a few errors and warnings then see how you solve it.