Installation on A4000 with GRex

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Alexco
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Installation on A4000 with GRex

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Hi all,

I successfully installed AOS 4.1 FE on my Amiga4000 with GRex. Installation went smooth and the box is stable.
For AmigaOS 3.9 and MorphOS PowerUp I have a Voodoo 3 and a Permedia 2 with 8MB (an old Elsa PC card) installed. I can use both cards in both systems without any issues.
But to use a graphics card with OS4 FE I had to remove the other one. When both cards are installed, AmigaOS4 does not recognize any card, and you can't configure anything using P96Mode or ScreenMode.
If only the Voodoo is installed, everything can be done using ScreenMode only.
If the Permedia 2 card is installed, I need to configure the screen modes using P96Mode, before I can select the correct screen with Screen Mode.
For this I had to find a P96 settings file in the internet (on A1k.org Ratte provides a general purpose file which provides all Vesa modes).
Why not include such a file? Or am I missing something?

Regards,
Alexander

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Re: Installation on A4000 with GRex

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I have a blizzard PPC with GREX and voodoo ... I wonder if OS4 is going to work.

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Re: Installation on A4000 with GRex

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Should work, as long as you do not use more than one GFX card.

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Re: Installation on A4000 with GRex

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SimonV wrote:I have a blizzard PPC with GREX and voodoo ... I wonder if OS4 is going to work.
Yes it should work. GREX support is experimental but that config was tested (Blizzard+grex+voodoo).
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Alexco wrote:Hi all,

I successfully installed AOS 4.1 FE on my Amiga4000 with GRex. Installation went smooth and the box is stable.
For AmigaOS 3.9 and MorphOS PowerUp I have a Voodoo 3 and a Permedia 2 with 8MB (an old Elsa PC card) installed. I can use both cards in both systems without any issues.
But to use a graphics card with OS4 FE I had to remove the other one. When both cards are installed, AmigaOS4 does not recognize any card, and you can't configure anything using P96Mode or ScreenMode.
If only the Voodoo is installed, everything can be done using ScreenMode only.
If the Permedia 2 card is installed, I need to configure the screen modes using P96Mode, before I can select the correct screen with Screen Mode.
For this I had to find a P96 settings file in the internet (on A1k.org Ratte provides a general purpose file which provides all Vesa modes).
Why not include such a file? Or am I missing something?

Regards,
Alexander
Bottom line is that, unfortunately, two PCI graphic cards are not supported on AmigaOS 4.x Classic. It's in the FAQ. It's likely due to address space limitations. OS4 uses more address space than 3.x and there just isn't enough of it on the Classic.
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Re: Installation on A4000 with GRex

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DarrenHD wrote: Bottom line is that, unfortunately, two PCI graphic cards are not supported on AmigaOS 4.x Classic. It's in the FAQ. It's likely due to address space limitations. OS4 uses more address space than 3.x and there just isn't enough of it on the Classic.
Just a quick note to this issue. Since the 2 PCI cards work in OS3 and MOS 1.4.5 without issues, is there maybe a way to block a 2nd PCI GFX card so that it is no longer available on the bus (a.k.a. "shut up")?

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Alexco wrote:
DarrenHD wrote: Bottom line is that, unfortunately, two PCI graphic cards are not supported on AmigaOS 4.x Classic. It's in the FAQ. It's likely due to address space limitations. OS4 uses more address space than 3.x and there just isn't enough of it on the Classic.
Just a quick note to this issue. Since the 2 PCI cards work in OS3 and MOS 1.4.5 without issues, is there maybe a way to block a 2nd PCI GFX card so that it is no longer available on the bus (a.k.a. "shut up")?
I'm sure it is doable, but unfortunately not that high on the priority list I am afraid. I agree it is annoying having to swap in/out PCI cards, like if you want Warp3D support on OS 3.9 you have to remove your Radeon PCI (which ironically has Warp3D and composting support in AmigaOS 4.1 Classic...

Anyway, another way around it is to get a Warp3D driver written for OS 3.x ;=)
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