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Fienix upgrade ruinied my system

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:06 pm
by Hypex
I was running the older Fienix Soar so thought it could do with an update. It was about time as not only is it depreciated but I could never get printing to work and Synaptic was missing. It seemed to install fine but constantly had issues like the above I never fully resolved even when installing extra packages to fix.

In normal use it worked fine. But it was two releases behind. And thought a full update would be good.

I set about doing the usual apt-get update, upgrade and dist-upgrade. The upgrade appeared to be fine so I rebooted. But then I found an issue. The brisk-menu started crashing. I uninstalled and reinstalled it to no change. I then updated again and found some packages held back. So upgraded again and all packages were upgraded. In the process I got some errors on the Debian server as I had updated the night before so looks like the package list went stale overnight. Didn't know Debian ppc was kept so up to date. :D

Once all that was up to date with all package sources working I set about doing the dist-upgrade. Did another update and upgrade just to make sure as usual. So this came down the line and seemed to process fine.

However there were some messages about no space on device. I'm sure I had put it on a 20GB partition but need to look at that. I checked and there was some space so it was worrying. Just 60MB at one point before removing some files. But other packages updated fine so I logged out to restart.

Fienix loaded fine again but took a while to get to the desktop. Once there my icons are missing from the menu and even ones I had used did not show up in a search. I then loaded the Control Panel as it was the only app that showed in the menu. But it something was wrong with it. I click a button and it took almost ten seconds to load the edit panel up and then nothing in the window responded. After this I noticed that the HDD was flashing a lot indicating something was constantly reading or writing. I still use a "real" HDD so I can really notice the difference!

So is a full reinstall the only way to upgrade it? The system still still technically works but is in worse shape than ever. Perhaps I do the "trick" of installing over the top which can fix a broken system. :)

Re: Fienix upgrade ruinied my system

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:42 pm
by xeno74
As far as I know, no distribution-upgrade option is provided for Fienix.

Re: Fienix upgrade ruinied my system

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:10 pm
by Hypex
Well the dist-upgrade option was accepted by apt-get.

Plus a normal upgrade of packages ended up breaking brisk menu which doesn't look normal.

Re: Fienix upgrade ruinied my system

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:41 pm
by xeno74
Hypex wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:10 pm Well the dist-upgrade option was accepted by apt-get.

Plus a normal upgrade of packages ended up breaking brisk menu which doesn't look normal.
Fienix makes big jumps between Debian package versions. Therefore there can be problems with distribution updates.

Re: Fienix upgrade ruinied my system

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:42 am
by Hypex
I did notice the sources list uses unstable components. Rather like Ubuntu. Normally I avoid any unstable packages. Also I found last night some more packages were held back. I did another update and there were yet still more packages to install.

I noticed some error on boot about udevadm and some library is missing. Wonder if some packages are missing depends. I need to learn how to use journalctl as well. I'd like to filter it to errors only if it can do that. I tested some log options in attempt to halt the logging on disk but nothing changed.

What's also strange is that I cannot log into a terminal with my account. It rejects my password. I can only log in as root which is strange. Despite this the desktop does load up. There is some error about gamma and top icon apps are faulty with red dot warnings. A context menu works on desktop so I can at least open a terminal. But I can't do much else. As well as the constant disk thrashing totally dragging the system down.

Re: Fienix upgrade ruinied my system

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:41 am
by Hypex
So I may have been caught on a brisk menu bug. It has a confirmed crash on standard distros. But in the bug report installing software from the GUI caused it.

In my case I was updating software from terminal. So doing a standard software update. Given I was updating an LTS (according to Casey Soar is an LTS) it shouldn't have replaced it with a buggy version.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1724115