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Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:43 pm
by musa
TearsOfMe wrote:Reformat the stick and copy the initrd to it and now it works !!!!
Posting this from my litte sam440 while install is going on...

Thank you !!!!
I Am glad to help you further :) just ask

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:36 am
by Hypex
musa wrote: I've tried but ran constantly into problems with that the cdrom was not recognized. Therefore I have only used net_install.
This applies Mint debian and ubuntu.
I just tried a Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5) alternate install CD and had the same thing. But then I found if put my USB stuck in the front port and leave the Ubuntu disc in it goes okay. The only thing is I forgot what kernel I used to install it! I followed the instructions and found each time then whenever I got the installer booting my keyboard was dead. Given I was using a Apple keyboard I was surprised as most PowerPC installs would be made for a machine using this type of keyboard.

I think I need to now find what kernel can boot Ubuntu. Right now it's no better than my Debian installation as when it boots I get all these udev errors. One kernel failed to find root at all.

However, I may have jinxed it by using Ext4 as the filesystem. I can see it now, I will need to create another Ext3 volume and copy the Ex4 volume onto it! OH the joys of Linux on the X1000. All this time and still haven't seen a desktop! :-o

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:25 am
by musa
Hypex wrote:
I think I need to now find what kernel can boot Ubuntu. Right now it's no better than my Debian installation as when it boots I get all these udev errors. One kernel failed to find root at all.

However, I may have jinxed it by using Ext4 as the filesystem. I can see it now, I will need to create another Ext3 volume and copy the Ex4 volume onto it! OH the joys of Linux on the X1000. All this time and still haven't seen a desktop! :-o
Hi

The 2 kernels you can use is http://www.stevens31.karoo.net/kernel-39D.zip and http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/6/20/ ... -39cf.zip.
The filssystem I use is ext4.
Both kernler gives boot errors but it means nothing.
I would recommend that you follow Trewors guide which has a special section for installing Ubuntu. If you do you should not have any problems.
Good luck

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:53 am
by trevordick
I would recommend that you follow Trewors guide which has a special section for installing Ubuntu. If you do you should have any problems.
I second that suggestion. RTFM! ;-)

Seriously though, if you following the Installation guide you should be able to install Ubuntu on your AmigaONE X1000.

I'm in the process of finishing off version 2.4 of the guide which should be released to beta testers next week and "First Contact" owners shortly afterward. This new version will also include the installation instuctions for Fedora 17 PowerPC64 beta, whicj is based on Pat Wall's excellent work.

Trevor

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:42 pm
by Hypex
musa wrote: Both kernler gives boot errors but it means nothing.
I would recommend that you follow Trewors guide which has a special section for installing Ubuntu. If you do you should not have any problems.
Good luck
Thanks. I got it!

I tried the vmlinux39 and vmlinux39NH kernels to no end which just gave me errors then after five or ten minutes the kernels would reboot and my X1000 would get stuck in the CFE bug where the X1000 logo is on screen forever. I then have to manually reset it. Very annoying. It looks like it is booting but isn't despite setting up the hardware. But...

I tested using the pw-1.2 kernel and it worked! :-D However I found Ubuntu to be really slow. And to make matters worse they have killed all the usual useful menu items and put some kind of limited dock on the left hand side which really puts the desktop off balance. If those guys think that is the latest greatest thing they need to think again and copy the AmigaOS4.1 desktop! :-o

I followed Trevor's guide as much as I could since I wasn't using a net install.

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:48 pm
by Hypex
trevordick wrote: Seriously though, if you following the Installation guide you should be able to install Ubuntu on your AmigaONE X1000.
I followed it as much as I could since I wasn't doing the same exact procedure. But using an alternate install image. The same as I used for my A1 long ago. :-)

However the process is pretty much duplicated. I will confirm what kernel I used to install and then you can add the info to your guide. ;-)

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:17 pm
by musa
Hypex wrote:
musa wrote: Both kernler gives boot errors but it means nothing.
I would recommend that you follow Trewors guide which has a special section for installing Ubuntu. If you do you should not have any problems.
Good luck
Thanks. I got it!

I tried the vmlinux39 and vmlinux39NH kernels to no end which just gave me errors then after five or ten minutes the kernels would reboot and my X1000 would get stuck in the CFE bug where the X1000 logo is on screen forever. I then have to manuallt reset it. Very annoying. It looks like it is booting but isn't despite setting up the hardware. But...

I tested using the pw-1.2 kernel and it worked! :-D However I found Ubuntu to be really slow. And ot make matters worse they have kill all the usual useful menu items and put soem kind of limited dock on the left hand side whicj relaly puts the desktop off balance. If those guys think that is the latest greatest thing they need to think again and copy the AmigaOS4.1 desktop! :-o

I followed Trevor's guide as much as I could since I wasn't using a net install.
Hello
I do not recognize the problems you mention with Ubuntu. the only problem I had is related to the 3d drivers which I therefore have not turned on. Compared to my Ubuntu on my PC machine there is not much difference. All function optimally.

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:34 pm
by Hypex
musa wrote:I do not recognize the problems you mention with Ubuntu
I haven't yet tested with the kernel module so hope that fixes it all up. But after a fresh install the desktop wasn't very responsive and mouse clicks tended to take ten times as much time to acknowlege I had clicked them at all. It was like I was running it on a 180Mhz machine! Actually maybe 18Mhz would be better figure to compare with. :-)

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:58 pm
by musa
Hypex wrote:
musa wrote:I do not recognize the problems you mention with Ubuntu
I haven't yet tested with the kernel module so hope that fixes it all up. But after a fresh install the desktop wasn't very responsive and mouse clicks tended to take ten times as much time to acknowlege I had clicked them at all. It was like I was running it on a 180Mhz machine! Actually maybe 18Mhz would be better figure to compare with. :-)
Are you using ubuntu / unity? It does not work well for me. Use instead Gnome / classic. This, together with docky give an attractive and functional desktop. So you might be right in that it is not the whole ubuntu package that runs decently but Gnome / classic run fine for me. Forgot all about compiz in ubuntu. If you want 3d support use debian or mint. Her is my desktop
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Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:47 pm
by Hypex
musa wrote:Are you using ubuntu / unity?
Yes I am. I am using the standard desktop. It wasn't a problem the last time I installed Ubuntu. But like the wreckage of KDE that I now appal since I just get lost, it looks like they managed to wreck the Ubuntu desktop somehow. I wouldn't mind if Gnome was sitting in the background but Unity has no functional menus! The 9.04 on my A1 has full menus and access to my applications but this 12.04 only seems to have 8 to chose from and you must use old fashioned typing to find what you want! :-?

That said, it seemed better after the modules are in. However, that package manager is still slow. They all are. I don't know what they are doing. All they do is waste ten seconds of CPU time doing nothing at startup! :-?

Other things seem slow. Like compiling. Or just doing autoconf. Loading programs. :-)
musa wrote:Her is my desktop
Nice one! Now why does it look like OSX? ;-)

I found the Linux kernel doesn't like to start from the flash drive left in my Apple keyboard. The 39 kernel complains it can't mknod to a read only filesystem. 39NH gives ata failures and read errors. PW-1.2 also fails on reads end ends up in a kernel panic!

IIRC it is only PW-1.2 that can boot Ubuntu. I don't understand. On my AmigaOne XE I have no such trouble. I can use any A1 kernel with Debian or Ubuntu with no trouble. With no usual booting delays or sluggishness apart from what would be expected. But on the X1000 it's all complicated with all these kernels needed that easily break and some took ages to boot. And they cannot be booted off a harddisk. The X1000 has certainly got to be better hardware than an A1 so I don't why there was so much trouble running Linux on it. :-?