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Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 12:56 am
by kilaueabart
Whenever I open the Workbench drawer, I am annoyed with an EnhancerSoftware-1.3 icon covered by an EnhancerSoftware icon.

If I look at the icon Info for the second (which is a drawer X: 308, Y: 94), it says Show: Only icons, View: By icon; .info files: As parent; Previews: As parent, Sort: As parent. Tool types: (empty rectangle).

There are other options for the first five of those.

Icon info for the first mentioned, the 1.3, (drawer X:309, Y:105) , three icons labeled Install_Enhancer_Software, Read_Me_First, and Installation_Files.

Read_Me_First gives a long list of changes, including MPEGA Datatype Class v53.26 (updated) and WAV Datatype Class v53.26 (updated).

Looking at Installation_Files, I just see the dark-colored kind of drawers which I can open but I can't tell if there is really anything there. No information.

I think I will click on that Install_Enhancer_Software icon. Maybe I will have to contact your through Windows henceforth?

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:18 am
by Raziel
Enhancer 1.3 is old and outdated

hmm, it seems two enhancer versions were simply copied over one another, instead of installed (that way the old version would have been removed/backed up)...probably akr3ady explains your problems, zhough.

too bad enhancer can't be deinstalled easily.

with the mess going on I'd suggest adding a new harddrive and completely reinstalling os4 (you can keep your messed up Installation on the other hdd, but you'll start fresh) and go from there.

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 2:13 am
by kilaueabart
I meant to report back last night that when I was installing from EnhancerSoftware-1.3 I kept getting informed that something with a higher number (thus newer?) than what was being installed now was already installed (and being replaced), so I quit the install.

The idea of reinstalling OS4 on a different HD is a bit depressing. Does it have to be a different HD?

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:39 am
by Raziel
if you want to keep your current (mostly broken) install and data, then yes.

if you can live with losing all of that and completely start over, then you can simply start AmigsOS4 Installation on your current HD (do you have your data seperated from the OS by chance?)

After that, do some quick checks on your crashing stuff, if it works, start installing enhancer...

but be careful regarding your gfx card, you might need a supported one (RadeonHD) for AmigaOS4 (non-RX)...I forgot what you have installed

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 2:01 am
by kilaueabart
Since my current OS4 only takes 112.77 Mb of the harddrive (in four sections) I had the idea that I might be able to use the unused 141.77 Mb at the end of the drive for a second version. But I don't know yet how Uboot knows where to go when I type that "A." Maybe it has to be the beginning of the drive?

I looked for a clue in Startup-Sequence or User-Startup. No luck, but a new mystery is why do I have User-Startup and User-Startup.1 and User-Startup.2? I can't find any difference between them at all. (I am also still mystified as to the purpose of Shell-Startup.)

There are so many hundreds of mysterious files so many drawers in the current install. I wonder how many a new install would give me. Maybe I could move my current OS4 to the unassigned portion at the end of the hardddrive and install a new one at the then empty beginning?

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 8:51 am
by Raziel
that won't work unfortunately.

you'd need to add a new partition to the existing hdd (two installs on the same partition could work, but you'd need to fiddle with assigns, subdirectories and startup-sequence and I'd rather you not, too much trouble and much more potential problems), but our partioning sytem won't let you add another partition without you losing the already available install.

it will boil down to adding a second hdd, if you really want to compare and use your os install(s)

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 1:59 am
by kilaueabart
I currently have my OS4.1 stuff in /dev/sda1 through /dev/sda4, but GParted has no idea what is there. I don't remember how to look at the HD from Amiga, but I'm sure I have done it. I almost remember labels for them. /sda5 through /sda10 are all versions of Linux, followed by 141.17 GiB unallocated. (Yesterday I said Mb, but that's the way my mind doesn't work anymore.)

I wonder if you're telling me that I can't empty those first four partitions and install a new OS4 there? I'd probably copy my data files to a usb drive or whatever first so I could get back to them.

I really appreciate your continued efforts to help me with this.

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 9:48 am
by Raziel
woah, hold up

it seems I'm missing some essential background information here.../dev/sda is Linux...why are working from linux to partition your amigaos hdds?

are you running amigaos4 from within an emulation?

all i said about partitions and adding an extra hdd was with MediaToolbox in mind...using this program *will* let you add a new partition to an empty space on the same hdd *but* will destroy any partition you change the size or position.

140 GB is plenty enough for a new partition without touching the already available ones...

you need to set bootable to the new one, remove bootable from the old one and make sure you can boot from the install CD...
...which makes a new idea come to mind...
...why not boot from the install CD into a *live* workbench from CD and do the tests there?
that would be less intrusive and you could still use your *crashing* pictures, but with the original datatypes.

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:52 pm
by nbache
Raziel wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 9:48 am woah, hold up

it seems I'm missing some essential background information here.../dev/sda is Linux...why are working from linux to partition your amigaos hdds?

are you running amigaos4 from within an emulation?
No, as far as I know, kilaueabart is just running Linux and OS4 from different partitions on the same drive, and he's more used to seeing things from the Linux side (recently, at least).

So the big question here is - was the drive set up originally by GPartEd from the Linux side, or was it set up with Media Toolbox from the AmigaOS side.

If it was set up with GPartEd, it should not be touched by Media Toolbox (AFAIK), but if it was set up with Media Toolbox - and therefore has an Amiga-type RDB (Rigid Disk Block), GPartEd can understand and respect that.

Yeah, this is complicated stuff, and I'm not even sure I have it completely right myself. But I do know I have had Linux installed on my X1000 back in the 00s on a disk which was set up in Media Toolbos with an RDB. I had just created two non-AmigaOS partitions on the disk (i.e. left them with no file system defined or something, or maybe I set them to EXT3 rsp. SWP already in MT, don't quite remember), one for regular data and one for swap, which were then formatted from the Linux side, as part of the installation from CD, I think.

Bottom line - maybe it would still be wiser to put one more HD into the machine and set this one up from the AmigaOS installation CD and use it for a fresh installation of AmigaOS. Less risk of confusion, I'd think.

Sorry, I don't have much time currently, hope this helped a bit at least.

Best regards,

Niels

Re: Problem with some data types

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 8:41 pm
by Raziel
yikes...Linux :-)

@nbache

I'm with you there, extra hdd, only work from amigaos installcd/amigaos towardsit and go from there