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Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:06 pm
by musa
trevordick wrote:BTW an updated Installation guide will be released in the next few days which includes instructions for all the latest GNU/Linux PowerPC distributions that can be installed on the AmigaONE X1000 (six and counting) alongside the AmigaOS.

There have been so many changes and additions that the new guide is version 2.3. A message will be posted on these forums when the guide is available to download for registered A1-X1000 owners.

Trevor
Thanks Trevor
I have just made room for that :)

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:33 pm
by daz
Hypex wrote:Excuse me but where are these files? I've been checking the X1000Linux directory for some months now and it hasn't been updated since last year!
You should be looking in the main Hyperion site not the beta test one.
Is there an issue with Debian gdm? I managed to boot the installer so I could mount my drives and copy the modules to my Debian I installed months ago! It starts to boot but stops after starting up gdm. It goes no futher. And I can't switch console as keys don't respond.

This was with "39" and "39NH" kernels.
Not that I'm aware of. You really shouldn't need modules unless you have a very unusual hardware setup.
I also wanted to try Ubuntu. Being that AFAIK CFE can't unpack LZMA I extracted its initrd and repacked with GZip on OS4. I loaded it in. Boot the kernel. But it failed because it had no modules! I was using desktop 12.04 BTW.

I don't know how the guys got the kernel working without modules on a non-modified initrd. All the later kernels on the A1, 2.6.31 onwards require a boot initrd image with minimal drivers for IDE. They rely on it. Thus why Ubuntu fails here.
Why did you do all that? The install guide uses the initrd without unpacking, and this works as it has been tested by Trevor

Also you need to forget all the boot instructions for the A1 THEY DO NOT APPLY HERE, you are booting an X1000.

The A1 is mainstream in PPC linux, the X1000 is not, and therefore needs a custom kernel. As such to make life easier we have compiled all the modules you should need to boot into the kernel image. This means no initrd needed during a normal boot. (Only for an install)

If you have some strange hardware configuation let us know and we'll build you a customised kernel.

Please try following the guide Trevor has written and see how far you get. It's worked for a number of other people and knowing where your system fails may help us sort your problems out.

Regards
Darren

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:36 pm
by Hypex
Thanks Trevor. Yes I did register but didn't know the file were on there. I must have missed a post somewhere. I followed the emails and also threads here but all I saw were links to Goggle docs. Some which stopped working.

I've downloaded a few Linux guides but didn't see anything about where to download the X1000 files, just the Debian ISOs.

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:36 pm
by Hypex
daz wrote:You should be looking in the main Hyperion site not the beta test one.
I've only just found this out but I also only registered my machine recently so I didn't have much chance of seeing it there beforehand!
Not that I'm aware of. You really shouldn't need modules unless you have a very unusual hardware setup.
Well my system is not unusual AFAIK. I have a HD4890, a 1TB HD and BD drive inserted in the specified slots. A Mac keyboard in USB.

But I did some extra testing. It gets past loading GNOME and gdm on console, MTA and then NET. It then stops. I can actually switch consoles. But the desktop console is blank except for a cursor. On the other consoles I can't press enter to log in. Nor does the boot console work. However I can press reset combo to shut down kernel.

Might try booting installer image again and making sure the modules are latest from 39D.
Why did you do all that? The install guide uses the initrd without unpacking, and this works as it has been tested by Trevor
At the timeI the guide I had didn't have Ubuntu instructions. And I did it because the initrd from CD I downloaded failed. The kernel didn't understand an LZMA initramfs. When I repacked with GZip it worked. Well it loaded in any case. Then failed while booting. However this was using the standard 39 kernel.

I just found an updated guide. However it uses an Ubuntu net install initrd.gz from the internet. This is not standard on an Ubuntu desktop installer CD, nor console installer CD, as they both use a LZMA initrd without extension. Although not using an extension isn't exactly standard so don't know why that is. It does confuse a Linux desktop into not knowing it's an initrd and also LZMA itself which refuses to touch unless it's renamed properly.

So it looks like I was on the right track. As the install guide uses a GZipped initrd. Having said that, it's anet install. Which for me is unsuitable, as I'd have to stay up all night after 1AM, so it downloaded during my offpeak and my speed isn't great. However, it should detect a CD in the drive.
Also you need to forget all the boot instructions for the A1 THEY DO NOT APPLY HERE, you are booting an X1000.
Yes I know that. But I wasn;t talking about booting an A1, I was talking about the A1 kernels, which are based on the Debian kernels that off load a minimum set of modules into a boot initrd image that is needed to boot. So in essence my point was about how a modern kernel is usually constructed.
The A1 is mainstream in PPC linux, the X1000 is not, and therefore needs a custom kernel.
The A1 is mainstream? LOL! :lol: Where did you get that idea? You can't exactly boot a Mac Linux CD on an A1! The A1 is the same as the X1000 and requires a custom kernel as well.

But I was suprised that Linux didn't work out of the box on the X1000 since it is robust new hardware that doesn't have the A1 hardware problems like no cache coherency AFAIK. Of course, Linux is made to boot on a Mac or an IBM RISC machine. They did support Pegasos (being OF based) but the files are broken. I just expected they'd replace the broken Pegasos files which is an old machine now and replace it with X1000 files for autoboot. Or at least add support. I don't know if anyone has requested support from Debian for example. I thought Varisys might have done so in the beginning.but board hasn't been out long.
Please try following the guide Trevor has written and see how far you get. It's worked for a number of other people and knowing where your system fails may help us sort your problems out.
As previously stated I had managed to install Debian months ago following an early install guide. But it can't get up to a desktop. I will read the latest guide to see if there is anytihng I have missed. Thanks. :-)

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:08 am
by trevordick
As previously stated I had managed to install Debian months ago following an early install guide. But it can't get up to a desktop. I will read the latest guide to see if there is anytihng I have missed. Thanks. :-)
That my be your problem then? The Linux installation process has improved in leaps and bounds since that time.

Grab the latest guide and kernels and you will find that Linux is now (relatively) easy to install. Good luck :-)

Trevor

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:32 am
by tommysammy
trevordick wrote:
As previously stated I had managed to install Debian months ago following an early install guide. But it can't get up to a desktop. I will read the latest guide to see if there is anytihng I have missed. Thanks. :-)
That my be your problem then? The Linux installation process has improved in leaps and bounds since that time.

Grab the latest guide and kernels and you will find that Linux is now (relatively) easy to install. Good luck :-)

Trevor
It is very easy to install with the great guide from you ;)

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:49 am
by tommysammy
Today i have installed Mint11PPC once again on my new HD drive,because my old was broken.
It is very easy to install it.
Now i must waiting until christmas for a new graphiccard.Oh it is sooo long :lol:

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:06 pm
by AmigaNG
Thanks for the updates, yet to find the time for installing Linux, (enjoying Os4 too much) but glad now that things seem to have gotten better. Cheers to all invovled. :D

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:56 pm
by gerograph
@all
Do we have a thread for general X1000 related Linux Questions ? If not, her my question:
How to log into MintPPC/XFCE as root ?

Re: NEW Debian/Linux Installation Guide version 2.1

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:46 am
by trevordick
There is not a specific Linux forum for the A1-X1000. Therefore feel free to ask your questions here.

As for logging into MintPPC. According to a Linux resource:-

"Linux Mint, like Ubuntu and most other Debian-based distros, do not enable the root account by default. If you need root permissions to do something, enter the command

sudo [whatever program you want to run] and enter your password when prompted."

To enter root from a Terminal window

Type su and enter your password when prompted

To open the Root Terminal window - click on Accesories/Root Terminal and enter your password when prompted.

Trevor