This has only happened to me once, on the current boot, but just in case it is serious I'm going to go ahead and ask what it might mean.
Here's what was in it:
The following required GUI classes could not be opened
clicktab.gadget
listbrowser.gadget
getfile.gadget
chooser.gadget
scroller.gadget
I haven't noticed any problems yet this early in the session, unless my inability to copy and paste ".gadget" in the above, in Timberwolf, was due to the ERROR.
ERROR alert at startup
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Re: ERROR alert at startup
Are you saying that these errors appeared when you tried to open Timberwolf?
If so, does it happen every time you reboot the system or was it only once? Do other programs run OK?
Please give us the whole story, not just the punch line.
If so, does it happen every time you reboot the system or was it only once? Do other programs run OK?
Please give us the whole story, not just the punch line.
cheers
tony
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Re: ERROR alert at startup
Sorry for the confusion. I get the ERROR alert at every boot or warm reboot. Most of the time the last one, "scroller gadget," is not listed.
I mentioned the Timberwolf matter because later when I launched Timberwolf I discovered the problem I mentioned, and couldn't remember if that has always been a problem.
I mentioned the Timberwolf matter because later when I launched Timberwolf I discovered the problem I mentioned, and couldn't remember if that has always been a problem.
Aloha,
Bart
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Re: ERROR alert at startup
It would seem that your system is corrupted, then. The only safe way to fix it is to re-install. You could try listing the gadgets in SYS:Classes/Gadgets/ (and perhaps replacing them if they are missing or out of date), but I don't know what versions or sizes you should expect. Perhaps someone else with a working system can help there. Mine is a beta system with many components later than those that you will have.
Then we have to ask how the hell it happened in the first place. Are you installing some third-party stuff on your system disk that might have over-written some of the libs or classes? Have you accidentally copied some older versions from an old backup?
Try to install third-party programs onto a separate partition, not on the system disk. Leave the system disk clean so that it is easy to upgrade and replace, without having to re-install all your favourite programs afterward.
Then we have to ask how the hell it happened in the first place. Are you installing some third-party stuff on your system disk that might have over-written some of the libs or classes? Have you accidentally copied some older versions from an old backup?
Try to install third-party programs onto a separate partition, not on the system disk. Leave the system disk clean so that it is easy to upgrade and replace, without having to re-install all your favourite programs afterward.
cheers
tony
tony
Re: ERROR alert at startup
If he followed directions, he should have a bootable ISO to recover from as well.tonyw wrote:It would seem that your system is corrupted, then. The only safe way to fix it is to re-install...
There is also the option of contacting AmigaKit to see if they can provide some assistance.
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Re: ERROR alert at startup
I think I followed instructions re the recovery ISO, but I haven't tested it. Maybe I'll have to.
As for Sys:Classes/Gadgets, everything is there, dated 16-Jul-13 17:09:16, which is, I believe, the date I saw signed off on when I opened the case this afternoon.
I wonder what would happen if I put Snoopy temporarily at the beginning of UserStartup?
I'll contact AmigaKit.
As for Sys:Classes/Gadgets, everything is there, dated 16-Jul-13 17:09:16, which is, I believe, the date I saw signed off on when I opened the case this afternoon.
I wonder what would happen if I put Snoopy temporarily at the beginning of UserStartup?
I'll contact AmigaKit.
Aloha,
Bart
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Re: ERROR alert at startup
In your first post, you mentioned that it had only happened once, but later on you wrote that it happens on every boot/reboot. Which is true?
In any case, it might just be a matter of a loose SATA cable or a RAM block having less that perfect seating in its slot. Both of these might cause disturbances in what is loaded e.g. during startup, and would most likely be partly random in which modules are affected.
Best regards,
Niels
In any case, it might just be a matter of a loose SATA cable or a RAM block having less that perfect seating in its slot. Both of these might cause disturbances in what is loaded e.g. during startup, and would most likely be partly random in which modules are affected.
Best regards,
Niels
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Re: ERROR alert at startup
Both are true. I booted, got the error alert, and complained about it here without even retrying. Since then, with one exception, the alert has come up with every boot, hard or soft, except twice (actually, three times; see next paragraph) the scroller.gadget was not listed at the bottom
The interesting exception was my second boot today. I switched from my User-Startup to the one that came with the machine, rebooted (warm), and got no alert.
I switched User-Startups back, but edited out a couple of things from mine, and rebooted. This time the ERROR alert contained only clicktab.gadget and listbrowser.gadget.
It looks like what I should do is go back to the short User-Startup, and add things I need, one at a time, and see what needs adjusting. It looks like I can get away without testing the recovery ISO disk.
The interesting exception was my second boot today. I switched from my User-Startup to the one that came with the machine, rebooted (warm), and got no alert.
I switched User-Startups back, but edited out a couple of things from mine, and rebooted. This time the ERROR alert contained only clicktab.gadget and listbrowser.gadget.
It looks like what I should do is go back to the short User-Startup, and add things I need, one at a time, and see what needs adjusting. It looks like I can get away without testing the recovery ISO disk.
Aloha,
Bart
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Re: ERROR alert at startup
The ERROR problem basically started when I added this to User-Startup:
run >nil: sys:utilities/limpidclock
although I can lay the blame for only chooser.gadget and scroller.gadget being called "unopenable" on that line. Once I removed it, the ERROR alert quit appearing.
But surely there is some way to run LimpidClock without doing it by hand at every boot?
run >nil: sys:utilities/limpidclock
although I can lay the blame for only chooser.gadget and scroller.gadget being called "unopenable" on that line. Once I removed it, the ERROR alert quit appearing.
But surely there is some way to run LimpidClock without doing it by hand at every boot?
Aloha,
Bart
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Re: ERROR alert at startup
why don't you add it to wbstartup?!kilaueabart wrote:The ERROR problem basically started when I added this to User-Startup:
run >nil: sys:utilities/limpidclock
although I can lay the blame for only chooser.gadget and scroller.gadget being called "unopenable" on that line. Once I removed it, the ERROR alert quit appearing.
But surely there is some way to run LimpidClock without doing it by hand at every boot?
regards...
michael
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