X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

AmigaOne X5000 platform specific issues.
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X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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Is NGFS working with AmigaOS 4.1 FE update 2 ? .
Not working for me on an X5000/40 .
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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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I am using NGFS with my X5000 and Update 2

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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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@Skateman

Thanks.
Will see if I can track down my issue.
Seems to manifest with removable devices like USB drives .
Will see if it can get a hard drive partition to mount and format.
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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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NGFS partitions just won't mount with my Update 2 configuration.
They will when booting from an Update 1 USB drive .
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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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I had so many problems with NGFS, even with Update 1, that I definitely wouldn't go back to it again. Since I formatted all my disks in SFS2, I can finally work quietly on my AmigaOne x5000. Still, I insisted, ran NGFCHECK to repair, often unsuccessfully, reformatted, reinstalled, etc. ...for years ! :cry: On SFS2, I NEVER have any problems.

The NGFS documentation is very informative. We learn that the file system is actually experimental and not as secure as SFS2. If I had read this document, I probably wouldn't have opted for NGFS and wouldn't have been so annoyed.
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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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@Spectre660
NGFS partitions just won't mount with my Update 2 configuration.
They will when booting from an Update 1 USB drive .
When you have created a new partition on your disk, which is destined to use NGF, then FIRST choose ANY other FS available for that partition, save the entry, reboot, format the partition, start 'MediaToolbox' again, change DosType for the partition to NGF1, save, reformat the partition (again) and Bob's your uncle!

Agreed that it's complicated, but hey! we're talking Amiga, don't we?

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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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@Amigaguy
On SFS2, I NEVER have any problems.
In the past 1.1/2 year I've had some serious troubles with NGF. I've had some issues with DOS/7 and even some partitions are now broken where they use SFS/2. Conclusion: every FS may give you troubles. I ust hasten to say that I've reverted to SFS/0 even and, fingers crossed, so far I've not been let down.

The author of NGF, Tony Wyatt, went out of his way to get my issues sorted out and I was able to reclaim most of the lost data, if not all!

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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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@Skateman

What is that commodity You use for partition info? It's not standard RAWBInfo, is it?

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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

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Probably not going to work for me.

I booted using FE Update 1.
Created the NGFS partition
Rebooted using FE Update 1.
Formatted the NGFS partition ok.
Rebooted using FE Update 2 .

NGFS partition won't mount .
OldFart wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:06 am @Spectre660
NGFS partitions just won't mount with my Update 2 configuration.
They will when booting from an Update 1 USB drive .
When you have created a new partition on your disk, which is destined to use NGF, then FIRST choose ANY other FS available for that partition, save the entry, reboot, format the partition, start 'MediaToolbox' again, change DosType for the partition to NGF1, save, reformat the partition (again) and Bob's your uncle!

Agreed that it's complicated, but hey! we're talking Amiga, don't we?

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Re: X5000/40 - NGFS and AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2

Post by nbache »

Note that there seems to be a typo above. You shouldn't
change DosType for the partition to NGF1
(unless you're using the latest betas).

Otherwise the DosType should be NGF\00 (or in hex 4E474600).

BTW: Are you sure you have the NGFileSystem active in your Kicklayout?

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