USB mouse/kb troubles on sam460

metalheart · Post by **metalheart** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:41 am

Hi all,

I'm having some problems regarding my sam460 amd USB 2.

My keyboard and mouse (doesnt matter wether it is a USB, PS2 via a convertor, wireless or with a cord or whatever,I tried several solutions) work fine with update 2, but cease tp function with update 3 / 4.
I commented out the ehci part, then the mouse/kb work fine, but ofcourse USB 2 is gone.

Also I tried to comment out the bootmouse/kb but that doest help.

Please advice what to do... I understood that it should work as several sam owners dont have any problems at all.

Thank you.

Spectre660 · Post by **Spectre660** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:21 pm

Have you been able to try another PSU or more load as suggested by mx3 on AmigaWorld ?

mx3 wrote: Most of the USB related problem on Sam460ex boards are due a not good enough PSU, the board drain very low power and not all PSU can supply a stable voltage with such a little load. If you happen to have another PSU, please try with it, or in alternative, attach some more load to the PSU, such as another HD or similar device.
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metalheart · Post by **metalheart** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:23 pm

No, I havent tried that yet, I need to try and find one first.

I still have difficulty believing that the only thing having troubles with a 'unstable at low power comsumption PSU' is the USB 2 port.

But anyway, I will try that.

How much load do I need to try to get enough power consumption with my current PSU ?

I already have a 460 GFX card, a sii3114 SATA card, a large HD, a DVDRW and a large USB external HD (without external power suply, it draws all power from the USB bus)

Thanks,

Martin

ps, the reason I'm posting here is that people keep telling me to post my sam troubles at this forum, as more sam users and developers are vistiting and monitoring this forums. Ans not that I dont believe or anything anyone at AW, everyone there is very helpfull

mechanic · Post by **mechanic** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:28 pm

With only your M&Kbd plugged in at boot, could you post your RAM:T/usb.log here.

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metalheart · Post by **metalheart** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:05 pm

Here you go....

Ofcourse this is with EHCI commented out, as I cant do anything when enabled

I: [17:15:59] USB stack | | ==========
I: [17:15:59] USB stack | | USB System Software Task started
I: [17:15:59] USB stack | | Starting HCDs...
I: [17:16:00] USB stack | New Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A150 at level -1
I: [17:16:00] USB stack | New Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A1F0 at level 0
I: [17:16:00] USB stack | | ...HCDs started.
I: [17:16:00] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A1F0 is {Vendor: 0x0000, Product: 0x0000, Class: 09.00}
I: [17:16:00] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A1F0 initialized
I: [17:16:00] hub.usbfd | HUB | Hub "Rear Roothub (ohci.usbhcd/0)" has TT thinktime of 8 full speed bittimes and protocol 0
I: [17:16:00] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device found on port 1 of hub "Rear Roothub (ohci.usbhcd/0)".
I: [17:16:00] hub.usbfd | Hub port | Device at port 1 of hub "Rear Roothub (ohci.usbhcd/0)" is full-speed.
I: [17:16:00] USB stack | New Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A330 at level 1
I: [17:16:00] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device on hub port 1 successfully added.
I: [17:16:00] hub.usbfd | HUB | Driver Running
I: [17:16:00] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A330 is {Vendor: 0x0424, Product: 0x2517, Class: 09.00}
I: [17:16:00] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A330 initialized
I: [17:16:00] hub.usbfd | HUB | Hub "" has TT thinktime of 8 full speed bittimes and protocol 0
I: [17:16:01] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device found on port 1 of hub "".
I: [17:16:01] hub.usbfd | Hub port | Device at port 1 of hub "" is low-speed.
I: [17:16:01] USB stack | New Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A470 at level 2
I: [17:16:01] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device on hub port 1 successfully added.
I: [17:16:01] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device found on port 7 of hub "".
I: [17:16:01] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A470 is {Vendor: 0x0A81, Product: 0x0205, Class: 00.00}
I: [17:16:01] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A470 initialized
I: [17:16:01] hub.usbfd | Hub port | Device at port 7 of hub "" is full-speed.
I: [17:16:01] USB stack | New Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A510 at level 2
I: [17:16:01] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device on hub port 7 successfully added.
I: [17:16:01] hub.usbfd | HUB | Driver Running
I: [17:16:01] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A510 is {Vendor: 0x0424, Product: 0x2240, Class: 00.00}
I: [17:16:01] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FE0A510 initialized
I: [17:16:02] MassStorage Device Task | Massstorage | Lun 0 has device type 0x00 (Direct access) and is removable
I: [17:16:02] MassStorage Device Task | Sys_EndInitialAttachmentPhase | Initial USB Attachment Phase terminated
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | | USB System Software Process started.
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | | Reading FD descriptors...
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | | ...FD infos read
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | Rebind FD | Weak FD "bootkeyboard.usbfd" for Ifc 0x5FE41B10 is being preempted.
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | Rebind FD | Weak FD "bootmouse.usbfd" for Ifc 0x5FE41B90 is being preempted.
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | | Starting HCDs...
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | | ...HCDs started.
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | Sys_EndInitialAttachmentPhase | Initial USB Attachment Phase terminated
I: [17:16:11] USB stack Process | | USB stack fullbooted
I: [17:16:11] hid.usbfd | HID driver | USB Interface bound
I: [17:16:11] hid.usbfd | HID driver | USB Interface bound

mechanic · Post by **mechanic** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:39 pm

As a test try unplugging all USB2 type stuff, enable ehci, cold boot, then plug in
memory/USB2 type stuff. I don't think the ehci driver likes (Direct Access) things
on initial boot.?????

Also, just to get this puppy walking, you might wish to try SFS00 on all your
partitions and keep them under 10G. More and larger can be added later
once the wrinkles are ironed out. That way, if it is a large partition size that
is causing problems, or JXFS then you would know for sure.

metalheart · Post by **metalheart** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:38 pm

So booting without kb/mouse atached, and when fully booted plug them in ?

I've booted from update 2 CD, and copying/mving files seems fine now...

Shall I try and get a USB log file with EHCI enabled ?

Must put a copy command in userstartup though, to copy the log file to HD to be able to acces it later....

Thanks,

mechanic · Post by **mechanic** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:44 pm

Yes, enable EHCI and cold boot with nothing plugged in.
Then plugin M&Kbd and look at USB log. It should only be a little longer then the
one you posted here.

Try moving files around the HD, DVD etc.
Then plug some mem stick or something that uses USB2 EHCI and see if the file
copying goes to hell.

Meanwhile I will write up a few observations about my 440ep and ehci.

P.S. If you highlight an area of your reply and click the 'hidden' button at the top
it won't fill the displayed page. Keeps things neat.

P.S.S. I do believe it was update 3 that introduced EHCI.

EDIT: Added hidden part below.

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metalheart · Post by **metalheart** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:23 pm

Well, I think we are getting somewhere....

updated to update 3, rebooted with original mouse-kb setup, kb and mouse did NOT work

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Then booted with different mouse-kb (both now USB) plugged in

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They both WORKED !

Then removed both and rebooted with noting on the USB ports

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Then plugged USB kb and mouse in while running OS4, they where recognised and they worked both

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mechanic · Post by **mechanic** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:43 pm

And what of copying files after booting with nothing plugged in?

The parts of your logs where their are double quotes ( "" ) don't seem right. At least I've not seen that
on my 440ep.

I wonder if another 460ex user could compare to their logs? Please.

(Nice trouble shooting

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