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Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:09 am
by samo79
I have a feature request: I'm often using MultiView 53.8 to quickly open text files .. however i noted that "Home" and "End" keys of keyboard was never implemented in MultiView for scrolling pages up and down ...

Atleast page-up and page-down is availible, however why not home/end keys ?
Can a ticket could be open for a remind ?

Re: Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:34 pm
by Rigo
It is my understanding that "Home" and "End" are primarily designed to work on a line (ie: left and right), not up and down. At least it is that way on another very popular OS :)

Simon

Re: Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:42 pm
by MichaelMerkel
Rigo wrote:It is my understanding that "Home" and "End" are primarily designed to work on a line (ie: left and right), not up and down. At least it is that way on another very popular OS :)

Simon
well, trying it on firefox here on a win10 machine "home" jumps to the top of the page and "end" to the bottom...
so for a vertical layout it should behave like that - imho.

regards...
michael

Re: Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:48 pm
by nbache
In text editors, word processors, and similar editing programs, where moving a character-sized cursor to the start/end of a line is useful (because you want to edit there), Home/End usually do that.

In text display programs (including browsers etc.), you usually have no cursor and no need to move to the start or end horizontally (except if the page is wider than the window). In such cases, Home/End usually serve to move quickly to the start/end of the whole file.

This seems practical to me, and I would second the wish to have it work also in MultiView (albeit as a fairly low priority, since Ctrl-arrow key - a traditional Amiga key combo - already does the same).

Best regards,

Niels

Re: Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:02 am
by mritter0
I agree with Niels. In a text editor Home/End is for the current line. Ctrl+Home/End goes to top/bottom of the document.

Re: Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:27 am
by nbache
The latter two (Ctrl Home/End) are however to my knowledge not yet implemented in any publically released Amiga program.

(Your chance for another first, Mark ;-)).

Best regards,

Niels

Re: Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:22 am
by tonyw
Alt-Up and Alt-Down also go to the extremes of the document in "standard" Amiga key shortcuts.

Re: Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:33 am
by samo79
Then, can be implemented at the end ? :)

Re: Home/End keys support in MultiView (text file)

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:55 pm
by xenic
samo79 wrote:Then, can be implemented at the end ? :)
Multiviewer doesn't seem to implement it either, so maybe it's the datatype that needs to be updated.

I tested a number of text editors, word processors and text readers. They seem to be about evenly split between 'top & bottom of document', 'begin & end of line' and 'not implemented at all'. There doesn't seem to be any system wide consistancy for the Home and End keys. I've never used the Home & End keys so I'd say implement it in the dual way; begin & end of line without a control char and top & bottom of with a control char.