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Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:29 am
by pioneer
In another topic I described my efforts to remove the Sii3512 card from the PCI slot, attach a hard drive to the built-in SATA connector, and install a Sound Blaster card in the PCI slot. I tried three different Sound Blaster cards. The last one I purchased is identical to one that two SAM 460 users say works with their systems. All the cards have the EMU10K1-XXX chip. The last one has a EMU10K1-JFF chip. What happens is I put the card in and go to AHI prefs. I select the EMU driver. When I try a test tone, I get a beep that locks up the computer and doesn't stop until I reset the computer. Two of the cards work fine in my microA1 (I haven't tried the other one, but I'm sure it will work also.) Since the Sound Blaster Live! Digital is identical to what the other guys are using, I'm thinking it's something wrong with my setup. I also have a RadeonHD video card. I tried removing it, which didn't make any difference. I also tried removing all the drivers from the Prefs/AHI directory except for the EMU one and that didn't help either.

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:16 am
by Slayer
I'm not sure SB is supported as such

Have you tried using one of the other audio settings?

On my X1000 I have selected

EMU10Kx: HiFi 16 bit 7.1 multichannel

but there are two other Stereo settings

EMU10kx: HiFi 16 bit stereo++
EMU10kx: 16 bit stereo

Also, what Music Unit are you using?

I leave it on Music Unit but did set up Unit 0 as well

Someone with a 460ex could shine more specific light on the subject

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:51 pm
by xenic
@pioneer
I just bought a third non-working sound card too. Someone in an Amiga forum provided a link to it on Ebay and said it was the same card that worked on their system. It too was an SB Live card with the EMU chip. I wish some Amiga retailer would sell some "tested" sound cards that work on SAM boards; even if they are used cards. I have a SAM Flex and not the 460 but the problem seems to be the same. However, the latest card I tried doesn't lock my system; it just doesn't make any sound.

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:23 pm
by ssolie
FYI, many of the SBLive! cards are known to be faulty and cause PCI bus problems. The problem is, there are so many variants of the SBLive! card that somebody will always claim "it works here." I think it is best just to never use a SBLive! card at all on any platform.

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:13 pm
by mechanic
Keep in mind that AHI processes the sound fed to it and that Mixer sets up things on the sound card.
So be sure Mixer is active before setting AHI.

For SBLive only the two outside sliders are used. The Master ( far right ) should be set up about 90% and the
PCM (far left) should be set to about 60% up. The others should be muted.

In AHI be sure to choose Mixer input for both Music unit and Unit 0.

I'm not home at this time so cannot comment further on other settings.

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:08 am
by Spectre660
On my Sam440ep-Flex I notice that the SBlive! gives problems when it is not seated properly in the pci slot. It will not work. In some cases it shows up in Ranger but with a parity error in the status.
I have removed it as I open my case a lot to swap video cards for testing .

ssolie wrote:FYI, many of the SBLive! cards are known to be faulty and cause PCI bus problems. The problem is, there are so many variants of the SBLive! card that somebody will always claim "it works here." I think it is best just to never use a SBLive! card at all on any platform.

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:23 pm
by mechanic
Just FYI I replaced the (?)soundcard in my X1000 with a SBLive! SB0220 and it is working great. Full 5.1 surround for music and videos.

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:27 pm
by Spectre660
Once the firmware sets it up properly on a given machine any PCI card with supported chipset should work under OS 4.x .
The next step will be the same thing for PCIE cards . This would make the Sam460ex very expandable .

mechanic wrote:Just FYI I replaced the (?)soundcard in my X1000 with a SBLive! SB0220 and it is working great. Full 5.1 surround for music and videos.

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 5:00 pm
by xenic
Spectre660 wrote:On my Sam440ep-Flex I notice that the SBlive! gives problems when it is not seated properly in the pci slot. It will not work. In some cases it shows up in Ranger but with a parity error in the status.
I have removed it as I open my case a lot to swap video cards for testing .

It's a little late for a new comment in this topic but I would just like to add that I finally got the SBLive sound card to work in my SAM Flex 800 and then had similar seating problems. For whatever reason, the sound card won't work in the bottom PCI slot but does work in the middle slot. However, it causes my system to spontaneously reboot if It is not seated just right. I had to bend the rear bracket so I could screw in the bracket without pulling on the card. I don't know if there is a problem with the case/board alignment or if it's the way the sound card is constructed. The SBLive is much quieter than the internal SAM sound (which produces annoying hiss when turned up loud or when using headphones.

Re: Sound Blaster problem and AmigaOne 500

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 5:54 pm
by mechanic
xenic wrote: finally got the SBLive sound card to work in my SAM Flex 800


It is good to know that is does work. Good job finding the problem.

I use the EMU10kx multichannel setting in AHI prefs with Front&Rear output.
By adjusting the PCM slider in mixer you can adjust where the sound is to your liking.

Not much wiggle room in PCI slots, even less with PCIe.

Nothing like a good bug hunt to make you want to get out of bed in the morning, eh? :)