4.1 fe long boot process

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4.1 fe long boot process

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Good day,

I've been using fe for a month now. When I installed fe, I installed a sata drive at the same time. I transferred files from my pata work partition to the sata work partition. Then I removed the pata hd. After removing the pata hd, booting fe became unusually long. It stays in the initial boot picture for around thirty seconds. Then the screen goes blank (no power to the monitor). After a few seconds the screen comes back on with the boot picture again. It stays up for around twenty seconds. Finally, after around two minutes my workbench appears.

Does my system still think that I have the pata drive (it is looking for it), or is this long boot process normal?
Motherboard: SAM460ex lite @1017 MHz 2 GB DDR2 SOLD
PCIe 4x: XFX Radeon HD 7750 Core Edition 1 GB SOLD
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Re: 4.1 fe long boot process

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This is not normal.
Boot time for me is about 63 Seconds from pressing power on to Workbench with a sii3512 card.
one thing that can slow down the boot is and issue with the ethernet connection.
You can have alook at my uboot variables to see if you spot anything amiss .
nvgetvar

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baudrate=115200
loads_echo=1
hostname=Sam460ex
stdout=vga
stdin=usbkbd
ide_doreset=on
ide_reset_timeout=15
ide_cd_timeout=20
pcie_mode=RP:RP
pciconfighost=1
ipaddr=192.168.2.50
serverip=192.168.2.222
bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd
menucmd=menu
boot_method=boota
usb_enable_4x0=1
usb_retry=1
usb_ohci_power_down_before_reset=1
scan_usb_storage=1
ethact=ppc_4xx_eth0
ethaddr=00:50:C2:80:D5:C5
video_activate=pci
hush=0
serdes=pci-e
ver=U-Boot 2010.06.05a (Jan 30 2012 - 16:06:56)
menuboot_cmd=boota
boot1=usb
boot2=ssiicdrom
boot3=ssii
boota_timeout=2
menuboot_delay=2
os4_commandline=debuglevel=0
bootargs=root=/dev/sda3 console=tty0
ddr2_boost=1
Interrogative wrote:Good day,

I've been using fe for a month now. When I installed fe, I installed a sata drive at the same time. I transferred files from my pata work partition to the sata work partition. Then I removed the pata hd. After removing the pata hd, booting fe became unusually long. It stays in the initial boot picture for around thirty seconds. Then the screen goes blank (no power to the monitor). After a few seconds the screen comes back on with the boot picture again. It stays up for around twenty seconds. Finally, after around two minutes my workbench appears.

Does my system still think that I have the pata drive (it is looking for it), or is this long boot process normal?
Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card
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Re: 4.1 fe long boot process

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Try opening Sys:System/mediatoolbox, then each of sata and ide.. if the last drive is not set correctly, it should offer to fix it for you.
I'm not sure how that will work if there are no IDE defvices at all, but it's worth a try anyway.
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Re: 4.1 fe long boot process

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Having used NVGetVar, I noticed one thing awry in relation to my PATA setup.
baudrate=115200
loads_echo=1
hostname=Sam460ex
stdout=vga
stdin=usbkbd
ide_doreset=on
ide_reset_timeout=15
ide_cd_timeout=20
pcie_mode=RP:RP
pciconfighost=1
bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd
menucmd=menu
boot_method=boota
usb_enable_4x0=1
usb_retry=1
usb_ohci_power_down_before_reset=1
scan_usb_storage=1
ethact=ppc_4xx_eth0
ethaddr=00:50:c2:80:d5:13
sii0680ide_conf=1020
sii0680ide_xfer=F0C0
menuboot_cmd=boota
ipaddr=192.168.1.50
serverip=192.168.1.106
ver=U-Boot 2010.06.05a (Jan 30 2012 - 16:06:56)
video_activate=pci
hush=1
serdes=sata2
boot1=psiicdrom
boot2=sata2-460
boot3=usb
boota_timeout=0
menuboot_delay=3
os4_commandline=debuglevel 0
bootargs=root=/dev/sda3 console=tty0
As you may see, I still have sii0680ide_conf=1020 and sii0680ide_xfer=F0C0.
I set sii0680ide_conf to 2000 and xfer to C000. I boot rather fast now.

Thank you for the help.

PS: How stable is your system using DDR2_boost?
Motherboard: SAM460ex lite @1017 MHz 2 GB DDR2 SOLD
PCIe 4x: XFX Radeon HD 7750 Core Edition 1 GB SOLD
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Re: 4.1 fe long boot process

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I recently added a sii3114 card and a SATA DVDRW drive. I removed the SATA/PCIe jumper and set the UBoot prefs to PCIe. When I switch my SAM460ex on it remains on the initial UBoot screen showing "USB - done SATA - " for around thirty seconds before SATA returns done. I imagine something needs to be configured to reduce the time UBoot takes to configure SATA, but apart from removing the jumper and setting the UBoot prefs to use PCIe, I don't know what needs to be done.

Any help?

edit: I reread documentation. I've set sii3114ide_conf 1210. Rebooting now.

edit2: Crud. Boot time is worse by ten seconds. I'll keep reading.
Motherboard: SAM460ex lite @1017 MHz 2 GB DDR2 SOLD
PCIe 4x: XFX Radeon HD 7750 Core Edition 1 GB SOLD
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Re: 4.1 fe long boot process

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If you are only using the first two sata ports on the sii3114 card then set the following from worbench cli :

Nvsetvar s4sii_maxbus=1
Interrogative wrote:I recently added a sii3114 card and a SATA DVDRW drive. I removed the SATA/PCIe jumper and set the UBoot prefs to PCIe. When I switch my SAM460ex on it remains on the initial UBoot screen showing "USB - done SATA - " for around thirty seconds before SATA returns done. I imagine something needs to be configured to reduce the time UBoot takes to configure SATA, but apart from removing the jumper and setting the UBoot prefs to use PCIe, I don't know what needs to be done.

Any help?

edit: I reread documentation. I've set sii3114ide_conf 1210. Rebooting now.

edit2: Crud. Boot time is worse by ten seconds. I'll keep reading.
Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card
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Re: 4.1 fe long boot process

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Ok.

Port 0 = SATA HD with AmigaOS 4.1 FE with SLB2
Port 1 = SATA DVDRW
Port 2 = SATA HD with NTFS
Port 3 = Nothing

As I understand the documentation, ports 0 and 2 are parallel as are ports 1 and 3. What I don't quite understand is how to setup sii3114ide_conf as it deals with master/slave designations. I think I have it right as sii3114ide_conf 1210, but am not sure.

I think I have a clue as to what may be delaying my UBoot startup. I set UBoot output to verbose. SATA detection is delaying around 20 seconds on the NTFS drive.
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PCIe 4x: XFX Radeon HD 7750 Core Edition 1 GB SOLD
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Re: 4.1 fe long boot process

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This looks correct .
I find the sii3512 two ports a bit easier to deal with and have a NTFS partition on my hard drive rather than a
separate NTFS drive.
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The NTFS drive is from my wife's old PC. She recently got a Macbook Air and wanted me to backup her hard drive from the PC. After all of the files are backed up, I'll most likely remove the drive from my system.
Motherboard: SAM460ex lite @1017 MHz 2 GB DDR2 SOLD
PCIe 4x: XFX Radeon HD 7750 Core Edition 1 GB SOLD
PCI: SYBA SY-SA3512-2R 2 Port SATA SOLD
PCIe 1x: Vantec UGT-S110 7.1 Audio SOLD
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Re: 4.1 fe long boot process

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OK.

I've tried many a thing this afternoon. I found that whatever drive is on ports 1 or 3 times out on UBoot. UBoot can't figure out what is on ports 1 or 3. This is the case no matter how I have sii3114ide_conf set up. Even with that envvar taken out, UBoot times out on those ports. Perhaps I need two drives on those ports since they are in parallel? Whatever the case, once it boots into OS 4.1 FE, I have access to the drives. It just takes a few minutes to boot... something I was trying to avoid by getting a SATA card.

What might be going on here?

This is my card setup.

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             +---------+
HD NTFS----[1]         |
             |         |=
N/A        [3]         |=
             |         |=
             |         |=
             |         |=
             |         |
             +-[2]-[0]-+
                |   |
                |   |
       DVDRW----+   +----HD SFS/0
I am guessing that ports 0 and 1 are primary masters and ports 2 and 3 are slaves. The sii3114ide_conf for this setup would be 1120, right? Or would it be 1210?
Motherboard: SAM460ex lite @1017 MHz 2 GB DDR2 SOLD
PCIe 4x: XFX Radeon HD 7750 Core Edition 1 GB SOLD
PCI: SYBA SY-SA3512-2R 2 Port SATA SOLD
PCIe 1x: Vantec UGT-S110 7.1 Audio SOLD
OS: AmigaOS 4.1 FE SOLD
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