LoadWB freezes completely with Update3

[fastbit66]

Hello dear AmigaOS4.x users!

I have installed AmigaOS4.1 update3 on my system an I ran into troubles.
I had no problems with update2.

I can see the new splash screen but if WB starts the system freezes completely.

Here is what I tried out so far:
I tried to start without any WB Startup Programs - that doesn't help.
I set the resolution to a lower value (1024*768@60) - no effect.
I uncommented the uhci,ohci and ehci modules in kicklayout - same behaviour.
I tried to start with no usb device connected - no effect.
I can enter the early startup control and boot without startup-sequence.
From the shell i can launch WB in LOW-Res.

I have set up a complete new system fom scratch starting with Update1 installatio CD.
I went on straight with update2 and then upadate3.
I even downloaded update3 again and decrucnhed it with UnArch to remain all protection bits.

What else could cause the problem?

I have a SAM440 with 512MB RAM an a ATI Radeon 9250 Gfx Card.
I can't test with onboard gfx since its broken on my SAM.

Please excuse me If I posted here - I was not sure if I should post in generell AmigaOS4.x or in the SAM branch.

Thank you very much for your time !

Greetings !!!

Andi

[Slayer]

Did you uncomment
C:AddNetInterface QUIET DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.info)
in s:startup-sequence?

type in a shell
idetool -l sii3112ide.device
and post what is returned; this will tell us what device you have in what unit

then type in a shell
nvgetvar
and post what is returned; this will tell us what parameters and configs you have set

Between the two we might be able to tailor your machine to look and act precisely as we want it too!

It's been a while since I've even powered up my first SAM but with our combined efforts perhaps we will trace the problem!

[fastbit66]

@slayer:

Thanx a lot for your fast reply!

First - I have commented out the NetInterface in s/startup-sequence.
But the system still shows the same behaviour: freeze on WB load.

Here are the outputs from idetool and nvgetvar:

1. ideltool -l sii3114ide.device: (on sii3112ide.device no unit could be opened)

Unit 0 information:
Flags: $00000187 - present, LBA48 used, supports DMA, ATA, supports cash flush, interrupts used,
Xfer Mode: best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s) / best dma 70 (UDMA 6, 133 MB/s) / current 70 (UDMA 6, 133 MB/s)
Total Blocks : 488397168
Blocksize: 512
Power mode : 2 / idle (ready for operation)
IO2 / IO2 / BMCR @: $2100 / $210A / $2120

Unit 3 information:
Flags: $0000019D - present, LBA48 used, supports DMA, removable media, ATAPI, supports cash flush, interrupts used,
Xfer Mode: best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s) / best dma 69 (UDMA 5, 100 MB/s) / current 12 PIO 4, 16 MB/s)
Total Blocks : 154869
Blocksize: 2048
Packet size: 12
Current medium read speed: x 65535 (65535 stands for max.)
Current medium write speed: x 65535 (idem)
Power mode : 2 / idle (ready for operation)
IO2 / IO2 / BMCR @: $2110 / $211A / $2128

MediaToolbox reports the hard drive as ExcelSto GEK234T2AM - Version GM20 - ID 0 LUN 0

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

nvgetvar:

baudrate =115200
loads_echo=1
stdout=vga
stdin=usbkeyboard
s4sii_maxbus=1
ide_doreset=on
ide_reset_timeout=10
ide_cd_timeout=20
menucmd=menu
ethact=ppc_4xx_eth0
ethaddr=00:50:C2:80:D2:24
eth1addr=00:50:C2:80:D2:25
sii3114ide_conf=1002
menuboot_cmd=boota
boot_cmd=boota
boot_config=default
video_activate=pci
ipaddr=192.168.2.50
serverip=192.168.2.222
boot1=s4siicdrom
boot2=s4sii
boot3=
os4_commandline=debuglevel=0
bootargs=root=/dev/sda3
sii3114ide_xfer=G000
boot_method=boota
menuboot_delay=1
boota_timeout=1



I hope you find these information useful!

Thanx a lot for helping!!!!

Andi

[Slayer]

yes, sorry about sii3114ide.device I just assumed the SAM was different from the FLEX

I have to say, I wasn't expecting this, those readings look fine

What exactly is that type of harddrive? a normal SATA? I just don't recognise it one bit

[fastbit66]

Oh - I don't know the harddrive either

I try to find out more information about this type.
I ordered the complete system at vesalia computers in Germany.
Maybe they can help with this issue.

Oh by the way - do you think using the driver from update2 is worth a try?


Thank you very much!!!

[Spectre660]

Two hardware things to check if you can.
(1) graphics card
(2) Power supply

I had a faulty radeon 9250 and it caused problems with resolution higher than 1024X768x8 as soon as I installed update 3.
It had worked ok until the O4 4.1 update 3 installation because I had even done a backup minutes before the update.

As a result of the resolution threshold the problem was not triggered by booting from the OS41. update 1 CD and doing a fresh installation until changing the resolution on the new installation.

I also had a problem when I first installed the same graphics card which turned out to be caused by a faulty power supply. The card would cause crashes when installed in the first pci slot but work in the second one (slower of course).

[fastbit66]

@Spectre660:

Ah that's an intersting thaught!

Regarding the gfx card have to admit that I baught the Radeon 9250 only because Update3 didn't work as expected.
Prior to update3 I had a Radeon 9200 in use.

I thaught that maybe the card is not working right - minigl didn't work once with the 9200 - all minigl apps completely locked the system. So I baught the 9250.

But maybe both cards couldn't work properly because of a faulty power supply ???

I try to get another PS to test this.
Since I have no SAM Flex I only have one PCI Slot.

Will see....

Thanx a lot for your hint!

Andi

[Spectre660]

Another test you can try is to boot from the Amiga OS4 update 1 cd and run Hans de Ruiters's GFXbench2d benchmark with the highest screen resolution.
If you have a problem with your graphics card by the last test it should crash or reset the computer. It did so with my 2 faulty Radeon 9250's .

[fastbit66]

@Spectre660:

Okay - I tried with another Power supply that works fine in a PC - same result: system freezes on WB load

I ran the GfxBench2D Test at 1024x768 ARGB32 resolution (this was the highest resolution that the program offered me)

All 49 tests passed okay an I was asked to upload the results to the database.

So it seems the gfx card is okay (?)


Andi

[Spectre660]

Sounds like your hardware is ok.

What I would suggest at this point is a clean install again up to Update 2. play around with this for a while including screenmodes.
Once this seems ok then install update 3.